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Egg Bound Fish - Can "Spawn" be Induced?
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:15 pm
by Steve E.
Hi All,
I have a large Ochiba that has apparently become egg bound. I have had other egg bound fish in the past eventually die. I would like to save this fish if possible. Is there a method to induce release of the eggs or can it be safely stripped under sedation?
Steve
Re: Egg Bound Fish - Can "Spawn" be Induced?
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2011 9:55 pm
by Gazza
Hi Steve,
Yes it can be done and i hope Duncan seer's this and gives you some pointers and this may help :
http://www.koiquest.co.uk/forum/viewtop ... 29&t=11790
Re: Egg Bound Fish - Can "Spawn" be Induced?
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 12:53 am
by Steve E.
Thanks for the link Gaza. Not sure if Dunc would be able to ship it to me in the US. But will send him a PM.
Steve
Re: Egg Bound Fish - Can "Spawn" be Induced?
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 9:04 am
by Duncan
steve
how big is this fish? i need to know accuratly
this stuff is not cheap by anybodies means and i will ship the kit to you but if itg gets nabbed by customs you will apreciate i cant be held responsible
but spike and i have a system and a way to get stuff like this through
so if your willing to take a chance so am i
dunc
Re: Egg Bound Fish - Can "Spawn" be Induced?
Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2011 4:26 pm
by Steve E.
Hi Duncan,
I will try and net it today. But not sure if my back will stand the stress. Still recovering from "throwing it out" last week. If I can do the job I will get a weight on it for you.
Steve
Re: Egg Bound Fish - Can "Spawn" be Induced?
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 8:56 pm
by wallo69
Steve,
I took three koi to a koi show this last weekend, and two spawned in the vat, so begs the question - have you tried to induce 'naturally'?
Big temp swings, change of water etc etc.
Mark
PS they are both back in the pond with a fag on lip attitiude...... not after affects.....
Re: Egg Bound Fish - Can "Spawn" be Induced?
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:19 pm
by Steve E.
Hi Dunc,
I threw my back out Tuesday trying to net and weight the koi. Have been flat on the bed or floor since. Even with muscle relaxers it has been a bit rough. Today is the first day I have been able to sit upright. I will be going out to the pond later to check on things. Not sure when I will be able to try and net her again. If I do will move her to the qt/hospital tank with two others and see what happens. But don't believe it will help, I may have waited too long for things to resolve.
Steve
Re: Egg Bound Fish - Can "Spawn" be Induced?
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 5:54 pm
by Steve E.
As I had feared, I had waited too long to intervene with treatment. I finally recovered enough from my back spasm to get out to the pond last night just after sun down as day time temps have been around 100 F with humidity in the 25% to 30% range. Found the fish floating. Not too happy with myself right now as I should have been smarter and acted faster. It is not like I do not know any better. The fish was close to 20 years old, but still I should have...well you all know the rest of the story.
Thanks to the suggestions by all.
Steve
Re: Egg Bound Fish - Can "Spawn" be Induced?
Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2011 9:09 pm
by kimr
Hi Steve
Sorry to hear your new's. A lesson learned but, I am sure other's will also say to of lost her so quickly the problem must of been more advanced than even you could of realised, and I would also guess that the impaction was so advanced that athe bacterial infection would already of taken hold. Not much of a help and I am sure I will be corrected if I am wrong.
So once again sorry for your loss
Re: Egg Bound Fish - Can "Spawn" be Induced?
Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 1:01 pm
by Gazza
Hi Steve,
Sorry to here that mate and hope your back is better.